How Severe Burnout Transformed This Mom's Approach to Motherhood with Michelle Grosser (E37)

Mom's Guide to Finding Herself
Written By Mom Identity Project

Motherhood is beautiful—but let’s be real, it’s also exhausting. The world loves to show us the highlight reel, but for many of us (Michelle Grosser included), the real story looks a lot more like sleepless nights, tight shoulders, brain fog, and the quiet hum of “Is this just how it is now?” As the host of The Calm Mom Podcast, Michelle opens up about how she once believed this version of burnout was just part of being a mom—until she realized it didn’t have to be that way.

Lost in the Fog

Michelle describes early motherhood as a “unique kind of fog.” Survival mode kicked in hard. Her days were full of feeding, soothing, tending to everyone else’s needs—but somewhere in there, she couldn’t find herself. The woman she used to be felt distant. And honestly, she didn’t know how to get back to her.

From Busy to Intentional

In one of my favorite episodes of the Mom Identity series, Michelle shares how she went from being the “queen of busy” to creating a life rooted in calm and purpose. An attorney, pastor, nervous system expert, and master life coach, Michelle’s story isn’t just about a career shift—it’s about an identity shift. She had to unlearn the idea that her worth was tied to productivity and begin reconnecting with the woman underneath the roles.

Breaking the Cycle

Michelle’s journey will feel familiar to so many high-achieving moms. She grew up as the responsible firstborn, crushed it academically and professionally, and chased success like her identity depended on it—because in many ways, it did. But motherhood cracked that open. Suddenly, she was faced with the question: Who am I, if I’m not checking boxes and earning gold stars?

Shifting Through Struggle

She doesn’t sugarcoat it—this transformation wasn’t easy, especially on her marriage. But Michelle and her husband leaned in. They talked it out, made some big decisions, and ultimately chose a path that better supported their shared values. That meant stepping away from her career in law and into a calling that aligned with how she wanted to feel every day.

Burnout as a Wake-Up Call

The chronic stress and physical symptoms weren’t just annoying—they were her body waving a red flag. Michelle finally listened. What she once saw as being “strong” (powering through, holding it all together) was actually keeping her from the peace and connection she craved. Her healing started when she gave herself permission to slow down.

Rediscovering Joy

Today, Michelle works full-time as a coach, helping other moms find their way back to themselves. She homeschools her kids, supports other women on their own burnout recovery journeys, and lives a life that feels good from the inside out. Her days are built around intention—not pressure.

An Invitation for Moms Everywhere

If Michelle’s story hits close to home, she has so many resources to help you start your own journey. Her free 5-part podcast series, Heal Your Burnout, breaks down the signs of chronic stress and walks you through what healing can actually look like. It’s grounded, actionable, and deeply supportive—just like Michelle.

Final Thoughts

Michelle’s story is a reminder that we’re allowed to change. We’re allowed to redefine what thriving looks like in motherhood. Whether you’re feeling totally burned out or just quietly wondering, “Is there more for me?”—there is. And you’re not alone in finding it.

Connect with Michelle Grosser

Tune into The Calm Mom Podcast or head to michellegrosser.com to learn more. Michelle’s message is simple but powerful: You don’t have to do it all to be a great mom—and you deserve to feel like you again.

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Ep 1

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[00:00:00] Since becoming a mom, have you noticed symptoms like chronic fatigue or gut issues or insomnia or muscle tension or feeling constantly overwhelmed, irritable, unable to slow down, things that you might be thinking, well, yeah.

Aren't these like a normal part of being a mom, Michelle Grosser, the host of the Calm Mom podcast, thought the same thing, but she learned that while these are common, they're not normal. And she's here to share her journey from being the queen of busy to becoming the calm mom.

There's a unique kind of fog that descends in early motherhood. You are coming out of this intense survival mode of sleepless nights and constant care, and you expect the [00:01:00] clouds to part, but they don't always do that. I remember that so vividly, and I don't think I realized at the time just how much of myself I had lost in the process.

I was so focused on my baby's needs, my family's needs, and just keeping everything running, that I stopped asking myself what I needed and honestly, I didn't even know anymore. I mean, if you had asked me back then what makes you happy, I probably would've just stared at you because I had no idea.

Everything felt urgent. Everything felt intense. There was always something that needed to be done, and I couldn't slow down long enough to even think about what I wanted. It was like my system was stuck in overdrive, and I was just desperate to just like slow down and [00:02:00] breathe and find myself again in the midst of all of it.

I was stuck in this constant mode of doing and the thought of taking a break even for like five minutes, it felt completely impossible. And if you're in that place right now, I just wanna tell you, I see you, I get it. And I promise you there is a way out. Today I'm joined by Michelle Grosser, the host of the Calm Mom Podcast, who experienced this herself and she has so much wisdom to share.

Michelle is an attorney, a pastor, a nervous system expert, a certified master life coach, and the host of the Calm Mom Podcast. She coaches women through discovering what's beneath their triggers and emotions so they can begin their healing journey and find peace in the present.

She is a mom of two girls, ages six and eight, and she has been there. She knows the feeling that so many of us struggle with [00:03:00] burnout in motherhood, and not just the, I need a nap kind of burnout, but the deep chronic burnout that if we're not careful, we can really easily slip into.

I am curious if you'll see yourself in the story of the patterns that she fell into as you listen to her story. Let me know in the reviews or send me a message on Instagram at Mom Identity Project to let me know if you see yourself in these symptoms. Let's listen to my conversation with Michelle.

Krissy: I am so thrilled to be joined today by Michelle Grosser, the host of the podcast, the Calm Mom, thank you so much for being here with me.

Michelle Grosser: my goodness. It's my pleasure. Thank you so much for having me.

Krissy: Oh, I'm thrilled. Your podcast brings so many moms, so much peace each and every week, and you are just a gift to the world. Your light your Shining is, is so appreciated in these really busy and really stressful times that we're in.

Michelle Grosser: Hmm. Thank you. Thank you. I.

Krissy: So you weren't always the calm mom and said, you called yourself a [00:04:00] little, something a little different in your bio that you sent to me in our conversations beforehand. Tell me about your life before you became a mom. Who were you before that moment?

Michelle Grosser: Yeah, I think, I mean, before I became a mom, I think I, I mean, I think the reality is I probably had no idea who I was.

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: of things that I was trying to be certainly and I think, you know, so much of that, the identity that we take on, I think really forms in childhood, right? I'm the

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: of five kids, the oldest daughter you know, my parents worked out of the house or they weren't around, and I took on a

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: and I was probably parentified in some ways and I certainly, know that I took that on and I just became the one who gets things done. The one who's very productive, the one who gets the good grades, the one who's easy to be around, the one that's, you know, the captain of the basketball team, the one that people are proud of, the one who's, you know, all the [00:05:00] things that we, we just take on and get rewarded and all of these things. So. What did that lead to? Well, I went to law school. I became an attorney. I got a job in Miami at a really big insurance defense firm. And I thought I was, you know, living, living the life, living my

Krissy: Living the life. Ah, the dream's coming true.

Michelle Grosser: Right, exactly. And then I had a really rude awakening with reality. I. When you're expected to work a ton of hours with very little direction and they're like, what? You're not, you know, sleeping under your desk

Krissy: Oh,

Michelle Grosser: is unacceptable. And I'm like,

Krissy: right.

Michelle Grosser: this is actually what I wanna be doing. And I

Krissy: Yikes. Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: and so much money and all this investment into creating this like identity in life for myself that I thought I wanted. And then it was really, I think like. It was probably a few years before I had my first that I started to just question like,

Krissy: Yeah,

Michelle Grosser: any, any of [00:06:00] this? Right? Is this,

Krissy: sure.

Michelle Grosser: really me? Is this what I like? Does this bring me joy or is this just me in those patterns of keeping everyone around me happy and making sure that they're proud of me and proving that I'm worthy?

And all these things we get wrapped up in, So I say all of that to say my identity was very much wrapped up in what I did. And I had. very forgetful mind around the fact that I'm actually a human being and not a human

Krissy: Yeah.

Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: that backwards for a long time. I think also you know, part of it, just the nature of my, my patterns and, and

Krissy: Yep.

Michelle Grosser: being an attorney, but you know, when it, when it came time for motherhood you know, my husband and I experienced miscarriages before we had our first,

Krissy: Yep.

Michelle Grosser: I just

Krissy: Mm-hmm.

Michelle Grosser: like. You know, you wanna talk, you want, you wanna work on your control issues, think that you have an,

Krissy: Right.

Michelle Grosser: about how your

Krissy: Yes.

Michelle Grosser: is gonna

Krissy: Relatable.

Michelle Grosser: exactly. Like you think you have control issues, have some kids

Krissy: and see how

Michelle Grosser: little [00:07:00] control you actually have

Krissy: over things

Michelle Grosser: And, and, and that was a huge awakening for me too.

And, I wanted to understand, you know, what was going on. I wanted to understand why my body felt like it was failing me in so many ways. I wanted to

Krissy: understand

Michelle Grosser: You know, so many different things. And, and, and then when I finally did get pregnant and go full term with my, with my oldest I obviously wanted to be the best mom I could be, right?

We all have

Krissy: that desire Yeah,

Michelle Grosser: and then lo and behold, she came into the world and I realized that I was actually woefully unprepared.

Krissy: yeah.

Michelle Grosser: Then,

Krissy: Yep.

Michelle Grosser: reality started so very long, long roundabout answer, but I think, I think

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: I was, you know, that that business suit woman in heels trying

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: in a courtroom full of gray haired men.

And I thought that's what I was here to do.

Krissy: Right? Yes. I just did an episode not too long ago about figuring out the mom that we thought we would be before kids and recognizing what we thought was successful. Because when we are [00:08:00] judging ourselves now based on those standards of success and what we would be doing well, we're setting ourselves up for a nightmare.

And you and I know that now, but so many moms are experiencing that. In real time. So tell me about how that transition to becoming a mom happened for you and realizing that this isn't the way life has to be.

Michelle Grosser: Yeah, I think so. I think I think the first thing was really the impact that it had on my marriage, to be honest.

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: know, my husband and I, so we were married for eight years before we had Amory,

Krissy: Okay.

Michelle Grosser: And she's eight now. But, so we, like, were used to being around each other. We, we've been together for, for.

Krissy: Yeah,

Michelle Grosser: You know, over 10 years at that

Krissy: yeah

Michelle Grosser: and we got along so well. Like, I would hear people

Krissy: yeah.

Michelle Grosser: you know, marriage is hard and you have to like, blah, blah. And I'd be like, I don't know what they're talking about. Like, marriage is

Krissy: You're like,

Michelle Grosser: we just like do our thing. We go to dinner at 10:00 PM we sleep in.

We have like, so much fun together. We, and then we had kids and [00:09:00] I'm like. Oh, I'm like, this is what, this is what they were talking about. This

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: feels really hard now all of a sudden. So I think, you know, the nurse fear was ready. We had the baby clothes, like all those things. But the

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: I just did not, I completely underestimated the impact that

Krissy: Yeah,

Michelle Grosser: would have first, I think, on my marriage.

So I had to really start to examine like.

Krissy: yeah.

Michelle Grosser: my expectations, first of all, because I think I had a lot of unmet expectations for myself

Krissy: Mm-hmm.

Michelle Grosser: for my husband that I wasn't

Krissy: Sure. Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: less like communicating to him.

Krissy: Mm-hmm.

Michelle Grosser: right? And then yeah, for myself, like, you know, we have these ideals of motherhood and you know, we see the Pinterest and the Instagram and the things, and then, you know, a reality hits and, and it's beautiful and wonderful and don't, you know, don't mishear me.

Krissy: Yeah. Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: our children

Krissy: will crack

Michelle Grosser: us open in ways that nothing else can. Our children will invite [00:10:00] us to heal every last trigger that they know how to pull

Krissy: like nothing

Michelle Grosser: else can. And that is humbling. And it's, and it's, you know, it's, it's, it's courage. It takes a lot of courage, I think, to meet that. Honestly.

So that's been, you know, I think it's life's work, but it's certainly been. A lot of, you know, quote unquote work for me in the last eight years of motherhood.

Krissy: Yeah, it is work. And it's so interesting to hear you say the part about relearning your, your partner, your spouse, and I was just having this conversation real recently with somebody who was saying that she expected her husband would be the soccer dad,

Michelle Grosser: Yeah.

Krissy: you know, coaching the soccer team, and then he wasn't.

So that's. Really hard to come to terms with when somebody that you have no control over. I mean, staying on the theme here doesn't meet your expectation. That's a lot different than when you don't meet your own expectation for yourself. So you're facing this while also working this incredibly [00:11:00] high demand job and probably not meeting the levels of success that you were before.

Tell me about how that changed for you.

Michelle Grosser: Yeah. I think you know, I think it's been, I. A gift for me, but

Krissy: Hmm.

Michelle Grosser: life, I look back now and there are so many moments where I was so naive and it allowed me to do really courageous things just because I had no idea what I was doing so I could

Krissy: Right, right.

Michelle Grosser: to do it. Like even going to law school, like I had no lawyers in my family.

Like I didn't even know a lawyer. You can, like if you asked

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: I was 20, I, I couldn't even name anyone. But I'm like. I graduated undergrad 2008. No one's hiring. You know, I'm like, oh, I

Krissy: Yep.

Michelle Grosser: grades. I'll go to law school. I, I think I'll be a good lawyer.

Krissy: Yep.

Michelle Grosser: I show up to take the lsat, like the entrance exam, and I literally just showed up.

I didn't know you could study for that. I didn't know there were courses. I didn't know like anything. so, and that's just that, that theme has kind of followed me. So I think, you know, once I'm a practicing [00:12:00] attorney and now I have these two small children, like always just. I think because in a big part, because of my naivety, I'm just like, I'm, this isn't working.

Like, and I

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: able to find the courage again, to just make that shift and quit my job and open my own practice where I could, you know, have different boundaries around my time and my work and my accessibility and you know, the, the, the, the fires I had to put out and the calls I had to answer. And it, it, it wasn't. Easy, certainly. But I'm so grateful that, that I did. So I think that

Krissy: Mm-hmm.

Michelle Grosser: biggest shifts initially is like, am I willing to lay this down you know, the quote unquote successful corporate attorney job and just do this in another way because, you know, as, as women in particular, as moms we just can't. We just can't do things the same way that men can in a lot of respects. Right? So we

Krissy: Right.

Michelle Grosser: able to pivot and adjust. And that was a big, a big pivot for me that [00:13:00] especially initially made a big, big difference.

Krissy: Oh my gosh, yes. I mean, it sounds, I can relate As an older child, I know that, that you own so much and getting those rewards, like you said, and the gra, the praise that you receive for being the responsible one, being in charge, taking on everything is, is so much, and it leads you to just this full identity of.

The like, this is how I succeed. This is what I do, and it, it's not an option to be the lawyer. You've made all these choices to get you there, and now you're here and this is what you're doing. So to pick up and decide to completely pivot from that, there had to have been a lot going on in the background for you to lead you to that decision.

So can you tell me about some of the symptoms that you were experiencing that led you there?

Michelle Grosser: Yeah. So I was experiencing, I mean, I had probably been experiencing a lot of the mental and emotional

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: of nervous [00:14:00] system dysregulation of burnout for a long time. Right. Things like. things like being busy, like perpetually busy all the time. Like literally not knowing how to just slow down and unplug and recharge.

Krissy: Mm-hmm.

Michelle Grosser: Constantly planning, right? Having to know all the details about all the things I. Just feeling this like sense of overwhelm. Like I would start the day and wake up and be like, I'm

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: There's too much to do today. There's no help, there's not enough time. Right? Like

Krissy: Right.

Michelle Grosser: kind of constantly running in the background. I. Coping mechanisms not great for the

Krissy: Mm-hmm.

Michelle Grosser: I was under. Right? A lot of like, am I just

Krissy: Mm-hmm.

Michelle Grosser: or am I zoning out, or am I, you know, really looking forward to that glass of wine at happy hour because finally

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: the edge off. So that, that had probably been happening for a while.

And then,

Krissy: yeah,

Michelle Grosser: when I was, when I was postpartum, really the physical symptoms started to kind of hit.

Krissy: yeah.

Michelle Grosser: like, you know, I had had gut issues for a long, as long since I was a kid, really. And then they were [00:15:00] really bad in my mid twenties, late twenties. And

Krissy: Mm-hmm.

Michelle Grosser: a symptom of a, of a nervous system that's dysregulated. And again, insomnia. Just like chronic muscle tension and fatigue. Pain in my joints. My hair was falling out, my skin was dull. Like everything just kind of

Krissy: yeah.

Michelle Grosser: and, you know, my body made the decision for me, right? It's like you're gonna slow down, right? You, I, I've been, I've been whispering that you need to slow down and you haven't been listening, so I'm gonna scream now. And then I really had to do something about it just 'cause I had no choice.

Krissy: That's, that's incredible that you, that your body took you there because I think people go beyond that. They push themselves and, and continually go and just ignore it or they suppress it with other

Michelle Grosser: Yeah.

Krissy: things. But you're not just this 20-year-old fighting burnout anymore. You're a mom of two kids that's fighting burnout in a height.

High stress job, high stakes job that like [00:16:00] amazing, un unbelievable to think about all of it with the two kids. I mean, two kids alone is a lot. Nevermind with this. So what was it like in your mothering aspect of it?

Michelle Grosser: I think I, I mean in those really early stages, so my girls are 16 months apart, so I think in

Krissy: Yeah, yeah.

Michelle Grosser: there's like, you know, I, I call it holy amnesia, but there's like this holy amnesia that happens I think for

Krissy: Yeah. 16 months, Michelle. That's a lot. That's really close.

Michelle Grosser: much, it's like you haven't slept for years and it's, you

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: and, and they're both in diapers and, and you know, everyone has their own experience, a version of that. And what I re, what I remember of that time for myself being in this deep state of burnout was I remember that, like emotions were hard to access during that point. Like,

Krissy: Mm.

Michelle Grosser: like, I know I should be feeling this like deep, bubbly, like joy, like I knew, I knew that they brought me joy, but it was actually really hard for me to access it.

Everything felt kind of

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: in that, in that [00:17:00] time it was really hard for me to realize with my logical brain that the things I was trying to do, little things, right, were not actually.

Krissy: Mm.

Michelle Grosser: things, but they all felt like big things to me. Right? It's like, oh, a cousin's birthday

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: I have to pick up a gift.

Like that felt way overwhelming to me

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: just something small, right? That I should have been able to handle.

Krissy: Yep.

Michelle Grosser: we're in this state, it, it, everything feels like too much. Right. I know that, you know, just my mood, that our kids can pick up these things, anxiety, they can pick up.

You know, that just that sense of like stress or when we're just kind of simmering and they can pick up when we're not, we're not feeling it when we're, when we're miserable, when we're tired.

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: so I think, you know, that was, that was probably true in a lot of ways for my, my earliest years of motherhood because my, my body and my mind were just not healthy.

Krissy: Yeah, it sounds like it. And medical professionals dunno what to do with that. Right? [00:18:00] When you go and you tell them everything you're experiencing, they slap on a diagnosis of, oh, you've got postpartum depression or baby blues. You're gonna feel better in just a few weeks or months. And maybe give you some pills, but it's hard to discern what is true depression versus what might be just burnout or, I, I don't wanna say just, I'm not minimizing it, but I think they're two different things.

For sure. So how did you know, did you, I re-question, did you know in the moment that you were experiencing burnout? Or did you think it was postpartum depression or maybe both?

Michelle Grosser: I mean, I think it was both. I really do. And I think

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: closely tied than we, than we give it

Krissy: Absolutely.

Michelle Grosser: So I mean, I, I did, I went to the doctors, I got all my labs, run, everything came back, you know, within normal range. And I just believed,

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: I. I don't wanna say the lie, but like the idea that, that's just early motherhood, right?

Like it's just exhausting

Krissy: exactly.

Michelle Grosser: And you know, we can, we can believe that because so many of us experience it and it's common, it's not [00:19:00] normal.

Krissy: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Michelle Grosser: that I learned. But then what did I

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: I did what any good. would do and I started investigating and I hired

Krissy: I can relate to that.

Michelle Grosser: Yeah.

Krissy: Yes.

Michelle Grosser: And I'm just like, what? Like, I remember right, like I

Krissy: Yeah,

Michelle Grosser: when I would get really excited about things and be super passionate and

Krissy: yeah,

Michelle Grosser: things used to light me up and I had hobbies and like I loved being around people.

Krissy: yeah.

Michelle Grosser: far away, but like I can remember, I know she's still in there somewhere,

Krissy: I know she exists. Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: So I did, I, I hired a coach, honestly, is what the, the, the first thing I did. I worked with

Krissy: Okay.

Michelle Grosser: medicine practitioner and I hired a coach. That's when I just realized the through line. Through everything I was experiencing this,

Krissy: Mm.

Michelle Grosser: severe

Krissy: Yes.

Michelle Grosser: of my nervous system.

And as I learned what that meant and how to regulate my nervous system, and I worked to shore up my boundaries and look at my coping mechanisms and how I was handling emotions, which I just wasn't. And like all

Krissy: [00:20:00] Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: things that contribute to burnout and, and, and a dysregulated nervous system, I started to heal and the, the symptoms would,

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: they started to dissipate and they started to go away and my joy came back and my vibrancy came back and my

Krissy: Hmm.

Michelle Grosser: came back and my mental clarity came back, right? It's like years of living in a fog.

Krissy: Wow.

Michelle Grosser: so I dunno if you're listening and you can relate. To any of that. If nothing else, just be encouraged because there's, there's hope for you. And it actually doesn't require you to spend money or go out and buy anything. It's just a relearning of how we go

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: our day-to-day and taking a look at our paradigms and you know, ex learning how to get out of our head and into our body.

Honestly, that was probably the biggest change for me. And ultimately, you know. Big picture that all of that is regulating our nervous system so we can feel safe enough to, to, to do all the things and experience all the things that, that we're desiring.

Krissy: Amazing. Well, you'll have to come back next week and tell us more about that because I need to [00:21:00] know more about burnout and we, I think we all need to hear those things, but tell me, what is your life like today?

Michelle Grosser: Oh man, it's so different. So my husband and I and our kids, we actually moved from Miami to Texas over the summer. And

Krissy: Oh, wow.

Michelle Grosser: yes,

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: part of kind of like a commitment that we made to each other. That this was gonna be a season where we, we felt like we were being called to rethink everything. so we made some really bold moves and we left like. You know, the really fast paced, superficial, at least this, you know, our perception of, of where we were living in Miami

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: know, bus hustle and bustle and all of

Krissy: Mm-hmm.

Michelle Grosser: for a different pace. We actually took our kids out of school and they're being ho I'm homeschooling them now.

Krissy: Wow.

Michelle Grosser: firm a few weeks ago. So now I'm doing coaching full time. So

Krissy: Wow.

Michelle Grosser: different. But what, you know, and, and it took time to get here, but we've been able to cultivate [00:22:00] a day-to-day life, right?

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: easy, that

Krissy: Mm-hmm.

Michelle Grosser: aligned, right? That feels like it intentionally brings joy. I'm able to spend, you know, time with the girls and be really present with them and have these like. these moments as we're schooling and just going about our day that are really, really special. They're gonna go back to school next year. And I'm like, already, I'm like, oh, this season was so short and so special. But it's just been really, it's just been that, it's been so sweet. So my days are looking very different in, in, in a really good present, healthy way. Yeah.

Krissy: I love that. I love hearing that. And as somebody that's in early parenting with a two and a 4-year-old, I love hearing from six and eight year olds, the parents of six and eight year olds, that there is this light, there are things that you can do, whether they're big steps like moving to a different part of the country, or baby steps, little breadcrumbs that you can follow piece by piece.

Your, your life can be drastically different in six months, [00:23:00] nevermind in six years. So.

Michelle Grosser: Yeah.

Krissy: Yeah, there's a lot you can do. Wow.

So you have a really incredible resource for moms who are hearing this, are recognizing themselves in it, and need to do deeper healing . So tell us about your free podcast program that you have.

Michelle Grosser: so I have a, it's a five part private podcast series. It, it's completely free called Heal Your Burnout, and basically what it walks us through in the, in episode one, these are like really short, actionable episodes, but in the first one you kind of get a little quiz, I guess to kind of gauge your stage of burnout.

So am I. right? Or is this something deeper? Is this burnout that I should really look at through a different lens? And then we go through what's happening in your body, right? Understanding what chronic stress does to our body so that we can then understand what our body actually needs to start to heal and move out of that space. And then there's so many. contributing factors that led us to burnout, right? It doesn't [00:24:00] just happen overnight. We don't just wake up, burnt

Krissy: Right,

Michelle Grosser: years

Krissy: right.

Michelle Grosser: you know, poor boundaries and suppressing emotions and poor coping mechanisms and all these different things. So we kind of break those down the, in the last few podcasts and talk about and talk through how we can take, you know, those little steps today to start course correcting on

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: things that really, really pay off.

So that's the, that's the private podcast series.

Krissy: I love it. That's such a, it's, I've listened to it and it is, it's worth the listen, put it on while you're in the shower or you know, maybe after your 10 minutes into your walk, then put it on, right. Get that stillness in and then throw it on. And they really are bite-sized pieces that you can really take and you give homework at the end that you can really action take action steps on, which is so helpful.

And then you have your regular weekly podcast and you just started a meditation. Is that gonna be a regular piece?

Michelle Grosser: I think so I've gotten a lot of really good

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: about it. And it's something that you can kind of save and come back to. Like the one I released was a morning meditation [00:25:00] for,

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: Kind of like to have a grounded, grateful, energized morning. So yeah, I think I wanna do more of them. I do them in my, in my group program.

So I have a whole

Krissy: Oh, great.

Michelle Grosser: in there for the women that do the group program with me. So I'm just kind of like. Pulling them from, from that, that library that I have, and then publishing them on the podcast. But yeah, the podcast, we have episodes that come out on Tuesday and Friday. It's called The Calm Mom. And it really is. For the every mom, going through

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: the things we do, talk some parenting. But it's really focused on you, right? It's focused on you, the mom, and how can we equip and resource you through the real life things that we experience and different seasons, anxiety, overwhelm, burnout, mostly and give you, you know, practical, holistic, mostly body-based solutions to help you work through that.

And then you can turn around and teach those things to your kids.

Krissy: Yeah, definitely follow that and put that in your rotation. Now, where else can people find you?

Michelle Grosser: The podcast is the best place.

Krissy: Yeah.

Michelle Grosser: website is just my name, michelle [00:26:00] grosser.com. Once in a while when I'm feeling inspired, I'll show up on Instagram, but I'm not so inspired in that space. And try not to spend so much time there. But honestly, the, the podcast, the Calm Mom, and then just my website, you can find out all the things there and connect with me, and there's tons of free resources and good stuff.

Krissy: Great. Well, I feel like I could talk to you forever, so I really appreciate your time in this conversation and sharing it with our audience today. Thank you so much for being here.

Michelle Grosser: my goodness. You make it so

Krissy: I.

Michelle Grosser: It was such a joy. Thanks for having me.

In the next episode, Michelle is coming back to tell us exactly what burnout is and how it's different from the day-to-day stress that we face. She'll also teach us three simple actions we can take every day to prevent entering a burnout cycle. Until then, take a moment for yourself and remember, you are an amazing mom just as you are.

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You don't have to do this alone. You deserve to feel like you again, and I'm here to help you every step of the way. Check out the show notes for a link to a free trial membership. I'd love to have you join us.

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